Curse

Dark Paladin X · Feb 27, 2010, 03:31 AM // 03:31

I come to the conclusion that farming bosses in HM is now officially impossible (if you ever want to get elite tomes or green weapons). Ever since the SF nerf, I can't think up of any build that can protect me from interrupts (both physical and magic), enchantment removal, spells, and attacks. In particular, there isn't any build that would allow me to farm even the easiest bosses like the Scar Eater, Woe Spreader, and Pywatt the Swift (and the daggers that Pywatt drops is amazing to equip to your assassin heroes). Luckily, I did manage to farm the woe spreaders I needed for the Discordway build, but I need about one to two more staffs for some of my other characters.

And don't suggest me on the stupid 55 SV/monk build. That build is BS and you are highly vulnerable to interrupts and health degen (particularly when dealing with Woe Spreader and his mobs where they have interrupts even for spells with a quarter second casting time).

Anyways, TLDR: Boss farming in HM is impossible, it can't be done. And I'll make a Youtube video to prove it.

chessyang · Feb 27, 2010, 03:47 AM // 03:47

Naw don't give up. I'm just lazy and kill the mob and move the h/h off sceen.

Plus is it that early to say impossible?

On a side note it was fun to bring back the 55. But it seems so slow.

Dark Paladin X · Feb 27, 2010, 03:50 AM // 03:50

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Originally Posted by chessyang

Naw don't give up. I'm just lazy and kill the mob and move the h/h off sceen.

On a side note it was fun to bring back the 55. But it seems so slow.

You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.

The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy. Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count).

kanuks · Feb 27, 2010, 03:56 AM // 03:56

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.

The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy. Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count).

Well Warriors can kill the raptors. Not the boss unless u use W/N.

Kwith · Feb 27, 2010, 03:58 AM // 03:58

This is going to come off as me being a complete jerk but I just don't care.

I honestly don't have a shred of sympathy for you. People overused that build to the point where they became so dependent on it that they became incapable of thinking on their own and coming up with something else.

Did it ever occur to you that perhaps the reason its called HARD MODE is because its not supposed to be something you can just walk all over by yourself?

So you can't farm a boss anymore, BOO HOO!! QQ!!

I'm glad ANet finally fixed that skill. Good riddance. Now perhaps people can start getting back to playing the game the way it was meant to be played.

Oh and if you don't agree with me I really don't care. Whats done is done, and I hope things stay this way.

End · Feb 27, 2010, 03:59 AM // 03:59

I can still solo raptors on my ele btw...and yeah just in general

QQ moar plox I needs more tears to grow my emo army...

Lord Dagon · Feb 27, 2010, 04:03 AM // 04:03

yep ele is mroe then capable of handling those simple raptors in hm.

Maybe do some research before you claim to only perma could have done it solo ;p.

CronkTheImpaler · Feb 27, 2010, 04:12 AM // 04:12

I was just goin through the build list in my mind and i know that ele's and sprit spammers can farm boss's in HM. Theres actually a bunch you can farm with the spammer.

Dang man its only been like 36 hours since the giant Nerf Bat went after the skills. A little putzin around with skills goes a long way.

Cronk

Wicked Sweet · Feb 27, 2010, 04:20 AM // 04:20

yeah in fact I always prefered to farm raptors with my ele over the sin anyway, it is much faster because of the increased earth magic from runes.

IronSheik · Feb 27, 2010, 04:42 AM // 04:42

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.

The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy.

Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count).

You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.

Proof that they do or don't please.

The purpose of boss farming in HM is to do without having ANYONE in your party and do it sololy.

Says who? You? Well, enjoy you're qqing while I learned to flag my henchmen away and get my elite tomes and greens.

Honestly, I can't think of a build that can farm raptors sololy across from the perma SF (oh yea, the W/N have a hero involved in it, which doesn't count)

Sucks then, wait for the next gimmick to come along or learn to use henchmen.

There's plenty of 55 builds to kill bosses, plenty of "walling" or standing behind a wall while a boss wails on nothing, a spiriter can take down a LARGE amount solo. Normal dolyak warriors can kill bosses, I mean srsly, gtfo.

Kerwyn Nasilan · Feb 27, 2010, 05:07 AM // 05:07

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.

I would like you to find any proof of this.

This is the same guy who said HM dungeons where impossible because he could no do it with Discord. If you really want to farm a boss it still is very much possible, just try looking beyond the pvxwiki "great" sections.

dasmitchies · Feb 27, 2010, 05:08 AM // 05:08

lol sf isnt nerfed its changed. try harder cry less

End · Feb 27, 2010, 05:10 AM // 05:10

one more thing I figured I'd add...since you where the one to bring up raptors...

Even mesmers can farm raptors

I always loved this guys staff...until I noticed staffs suck...

and for all those necros out there looking for some elite tomes...maybe this still works...

While we're on the topic of terrain glitches...

Some of these I'm sure are out of date but I'm sure taking a quick look they'll be easy to spot...

CronkTheImpaler · Feb 27, 2010, 05:17 AM // 05:17

I forgot about that build END. aside from the ones mentioned, i have tried 3 different ele builds that work killin baby lizards. (field Tested)

This is gettin kinda easy findin builds to whack those IMPOSSIBLE boss's lmao.

Cronk

Rick Thene · Feb 27, 2010, 06:36 AM // 06:36

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Boss farming in HM is impossible, it can't be done.

Good.
HM Farming is retarded.

Improvavel · Feb 27, 2010, 08:10 AM // 08:10

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

You do realize that even if you flag h/h away, they still lower the chances of you getting a drop.

This isn't correct.

Greyed out party members can't get drops (although they can still get money) - they are equivalent to non-existent party members.

Non-existent party members still take loot - read loot scaling http://wiki.guildwars.com/wiki/Loot_scaling .

Green items are exempt from loot scaling.

Default137 · Feb 27, 2010, 08:23 AM // 08:23

Still possible to farm Raptors ( albeit slowly, although this could be because I'm to lazy to actually inscribe/rune my gear ) as a Spirit/Channeling Rit in HM. Actually if I wanted to be cruel, I'd point out it got quite a bit easier for me to farm bosses in HM now with the Rit update.

*edit* Just tested with my Dervish, he can farm Raptors in HM to.

Try thinking outside the box a bit perhaps? PvXwiki is not the answer to all life's problems

Mortal Showdown · Feb 27, 2010, 09:23 AM // 09:23

55 Sv kills bosses fast and effectively, once you get the hang of it.

Age · Feb 27, 2010, 09:50 AM // 09:50

You don't need to be in HM to get greens I got my zealous daggers in NM same with some others greens.You are forgetting about the 600 solo SB Monk and the 55 can still do it.Don't forget about N/Mo 55.

To the End I was going to mention Mesmers.

You just think the A/E was the only profession that could farm effectively.There lots of other that can do this.

system.fan · Feb 27, 2010, 10:06 AM // 10:06

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Originally Posted by Dark Paladin X

Boss farming in HM is impossible, it can't be done.

You're full of shit

You can farm soooooooo many bosses in HM lmao

You can farm many Bosses with 55hp + Spoil Victor or Spitefull Spirit
You can farm many Bosses with a Beast Master solo
You can farm many Bosses with any Class + SS if you can hide behind a rock or something...
You can farm many Bosses with Solo Assassin (non perma... with Critical Defense, Critical Agility, Moebius Strike and so on...

And there are many other ways to farm bosses in HM...

oh and if you only mean "Elite Tomes"... go chestrunning lmao. You will get at least 1 or 2 in 1hour if you open like 25-35chests/hour...

greetz